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decadentdream) wrote2007-02-03 01:09 pm
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Another wildly intrepid idea brought to you by Zach
LOL I'm guessing updating my Zach journal last night threw me into enough of a mindset to think there might be more to his words:
"You may have an aunt out there, or a rich eccentric uncle"
So 80% of the Heroes population has jumped on board this whole idea that Nathan is Claire's father. Well now I'm gonna present another theory that I've completely linked all together LOL (I can't believe I'm saying this, it's pretty out there)
ANYWAY I propose that maybe Claire is actually a younger Petrelli.
Firstly, let's look at some things (really briefly cause I'm not going back over things intricately this time, just from memory).
Mama!Petrelli has remarked how similar Nathan is to his father. Nathan has been following his father's footsteps through life and his supposed "death". To be honest, I never actually believed this in the first place. First we tell Peter his dad had a heart attack, conveniently at the time there was going to be a big Linderman downfall. Then we tell Peter that his father suffered from the same "delusions of grandeur" he does amd he actually commited suicide. Now (especially with the sudden survival of Claire's mother) I ask - is it possible that Papa!Petrelli actually has a power (hence why his sons do) and would it not be a perfect time for him to fake his own death and get out of that dangerous situation? Especially after the attack on his eldest son's life.
There are a lot of parrallel's between Nathan and his father which brings me to another question - if these two are so often presented "like father, like son", and bearing in mind that Mama!Petrelli said Papa!Petrelli paid little attention to her, it is likely that he also could have had an affair. That affair could have been with Claire's mother.
Now, as for Linderman's involvement in all this, he is meant to be part of someone's family on Heroes. I did crazily propose that Linderman was actually Mama!Petrelli herself dead set on ruining Nathan's campaign and bringing herself some attention (or saving her sons from being like their father, whatever her damn motivation is LOL). I thought maybe we should move out of the box a little. What if Linderman was, say, Mama!Petrelli's brother? That the only reason Papa!Petrelli is defending him is because they're "family". And the reason that decision was so hard on Nathan to bring them both down was because he would be defying his family and destroying both his father and his uncle. Perhaps that's why he sought out Peter for advice, not just because he trusts his opinion, but because Peter has defied the family before and survived (ie. by not becoming a lawyer, but a nurse and without his father's money or approval).
Which brings me back to Claire. If she were indeed the younger sister of Nathan and Peter, then she would have a "rich eccentric uncle" in Linderman. If Papa!Petrelli faked his own death, it would indeed be hard to find a "dead man". We never saw a funeral or anything other than hearing Nathan say that he was dead, so there is no actual proof that the man has died. Also it supports that fact that we already know about him, though we've never seen him. And that could represent another reason Linderman wants those paintings - we're not sure if he's aware they can "tell the future" but they do represent hispossible niece and nephews. And, hey, if they're all related that would explain Claire's bio-daddy having the same build as Nathan without it being him LOL
Anyone else feel like throwing some ideas into this crazily wild theory? :D
"You may have an aunt out there, or a rich eccentric uncle"
So 80% of the Heroes population has jumped on board this whole idea that Nathan is Claire's father. Well now I'm gonna present another theory that I've completely linked all together LOL (I can't believe I'm saying this, it's pretty out there)
ANYWAY I propose that maybe Claire is actually a younger Petrelli.
Firstly, let's look at some things (really briefly cause I'm not going back over things intricately this time, just from memory).
Mama!Petrelli has remarked how similar Nathan is to his father. Nathan has been following his father's footsteps through life and his supposed "death". To be honest, I never actually believed this in the first place. First we tell Peter his dad had a heart attack, conveniently at the time there was going to be a big Linderman downfall. Then we tell Peter that his father suffered from the same "delusions of grandeur" he does amd he actually commited suicide. Now (especially with the sudden survival of Claire's mother) I ask - is it possible that Papa!Petrelli actually has a power (hence why his sons do) and would it not be a perfect time for him to fake his own death and get out of that dangerous situation? Especially after the attack on his eldest son's life.
There are a lot of parrallel's between Nathan and his father which brings me to another question - if these two are so often presented "like father, like son", and bearing in mind that Mama!Petrelli said Papa!Petrelli paid little attention to her, it is likely that he also could have had an affair. That affair could have been with Claire's mother.
Now, as for Linderman's involvement in all this, he is meant to be part of someone's family on Heroes. I did crazily propose that Linderman was actually Mama!Petrelli herself dead set on ruining Nathan's campaign and bringing herself some attention (or saving her sons from being like their father, whatever her damn motivation is LOL). I thought maybe we should move out of the box a little. What if Linderman was, say, Mama!Petrelli's brother? That the only reason Papa!Petrelli is defending him is because they're "family". And the reason that decision was so hard on Nathan to bring them both down was because he would be defying his family and destroying both his father and his uncle. Perhaps that's why he sought out Peter for advice, not just because he trusts his opinion, but because Peter has defied the family before and survived (ie. by not becoming a lawyer, but a nurse and without his father's money or approval).
Which brings me back to Claire. If she were indeed the younger sister of Nathan and Peter, then she would have a "rich eccentric uncle" in Linderman. If Papa!Petrelli faked his own death, it would indeed be hard to find a "dead man". We never saw a funeral or anything other than hearing Nathan say that he was dead, so there is no actual proof that the man has died. Also it supports that fact that we already know about him, though we've never seen him. And that could represent another reason Linderman wants those paintings - we're not sure if he's aware they can "tell the future" but they do represent his
Anyone else feel like throwing some ideas into this crazily wild theory? :D
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I know you got some pretty wild theories (that seem to have an uncanny ability of turning out to be true) but this just takes the whole damn cake.
OK I'm not very good in the theory department and from what you're saying it does seem that you've taken all the hints & clues that have been dropped our way so I am going to say -hmmm interesting. ep 15 can't come soon enough-
When you suggest PapaPetrelli faked his death does it mean no one knows aout this fake death and that the Petrellis are unaware of it?
Unfortunately I just realised that I read somewhere that Claire & Peter are not siblings. I can't recall is Milo said it or someone else but I'll try to hunt the link down.
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Oh c'mon don't gimmie that :P *kicks* U came up with the whole Claude thing, that was good *nods* You analyze the Petrelli's really well. And me, well, I just keep trying to think outside the box. Which is good for my creative imagination *nods* if only I could implement that somehow into a beginning....
I don't know *ponders* I mean it would make sense just to completely abandon them (OH! LOL He could be self-healing too so any suicide attempt would fix itself) erm yeah haha. I'm just a wealth of speculation.
So I read the little link u gave me for that and found out stuff I didn't know, but as far as Adrian saying that I did know. He says they're not brother and sister... does a half count? Or maybe she really is a cousin like Kristin suggested and she's Linderman's daughter hehe So we've got like a week and a half to this I guess. Oh did u notice everyone's suddenly backtracking on the when Zach is leaving thing? So shady.
Meh. Let's just make daddy HRG and be over and done with it. He had an affair cause he couldn't have kids with his wife and he was frustrated or something...
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I don't know *ponders* I mean it would make sense just to completely abandon them (OH! LOL He could be self-healing too so any suicide attempt would fix itself) erm yeah haha. I'm just a wealth of speculation.
OOh of course he could have something to do with healing. I imagine the suicide attempts then were much akin to Claire stabbing herself etc. Now if only we could find the tapes he made...
I don't know if a half-counts. Yeah I'm kinda hoping Zach sticks around for just a teensy bit longer.
Let's just make daddy HRG and be over and done with it. He had an affair cause he couldn't have kids with his wife and he was frustrated or something...
oooh wouldn't mind this. But Mrs. Bennet might :/
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Ali also talked about her character's involvement with the older Petrelli brother, "I don't know much, other than at the end of episode 15, there is a reason as to why we are going to be together again, which I am thrilled about. I absolutely adore working with him, and I think our two characters are great together."
That's exactly what I was saying earlier - if Nathan's involved with so many other characters, how can he be involved in Claire's storyline. And Ali's just said that at the end of Ep 15 SHE is with Adrian. We haven't heard anything about her and Claire, so I'm presuming she'll have to find someone else won't she? LOL hang on - what's happening ep 15 again? Tell me what u know.
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